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 Post subject: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:25 pm 
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Hi Everyone,

Here are some pics I took back in 2009 when I headed up to Cinnabar. This town is located about 15 miles west of Yellowpine and is kind of hidden. The Forrest Service has tried to remove all of the signs that point to this town, but if you are handy with Google earth, you can put in these coordinates 44°55'14.10" N 115°17'15.19" W.

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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:12 am 
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Man, I am REALLY going to have to check this place out this fall. I will be up around that area anyway! :) Thanks for sharing!


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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:10 am 
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That looks like a cool ride !
Was it easy to access ?
What was the huge building ? A Lodge ?
Id like to read some history on it up there .
Thanks for sharing

So did they try to remove signs to reduce any tourism an vandlism ?


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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:25 pm 
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It is actually pretty easy to get there from Yellowpine, there is one water crossing (not very deep). The large building I believe is a large bunk house or hotel. This town is still in private ownership from a family that lives in Boise. The mine was still active up until the mid 1960's when it closed. They mined cinnabar, this is basically mercury. Currently this is a Super Fund site due to mercury in the area and the Forrest Service is trying to clean this area up. The rumor is they will tear down the town once the legal wrangling gets completed and the family that owns the claim loses it. This part of the Payette National Forrest has a colorful history. There is not a very good relationship between the Forrest Service and the local residents.

This link has some pictures showing the water crossing from a Jeep forum http://www.idaho4x4.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=943

Here is a link to more information on what is going on with the Forrest Service and the Locals. http://usfspayettenationalforest.blogspot.com/2010/09/usfs-payete-national-forest-government.html


Here is a link to more pictures of Cinnabar and Stibnite. Sadly Stibnite was torn down by the Forrest Service but luckily a lot of buildings were actually moved into McCall, some of the houses are located on Stibnite Street. http://www.pbase.com/hunky/scans_stibnite_cinnabar

Here is another website with information about Stibnite http://www.experimentaldon.com/myMountainJourneys/stibniteMemories.html

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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Thas kind of sad ... :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:58 pm 
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Yeah it is. It is still worth visiting while its still here. There is a lot of good riding in this area. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:42 pm 
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atvdude wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Here are some pics I took back in 2009 when I headed up to Cinnabar. This town is located about 15 miles west of Yellowpine and is kind of hidden. The Forrest Service has tried to remove all of the signs that point to this town, but if you are handy with Google earth, you can put in these coordinates 44°55'14.10" N 115°17'15.19" W.


Actually it's 15 miles "EAST" of Yellow Pine. I lived and worked in Stibnite, Thunder Mountain, and Yellow Pine from 1980-87.

I'll have to dig out some old pictures. You have done a great job sharing with folks about a wonderful area. And the stories you tell about the forest service are all true. You have not exaggerated one little bit.

There is an alternate way into Cinnabar other than along Sugar Creek. Go through Stibnite and on up to Monumental Summit. There is a road that drops down from there to Cinnabar.

Another real cool trail to try in the area is from Johnson Creek near the Johnson Creek Air Strip. There is a road to the east off of Johnson Creek up the side of the hill to Hennessy Meadows. Then across the valley to the taillings piles at Stibnite. The last time I did it I went up from Johnson Creek to Hennessy Meadows in a 2X4 F-250 Ford pickup. The road may be worse now. But I had very little problems with the two wheel drive. I wouldn't try to go from Hennessy Meadows across to Stibnite unless you have a really tough high clearance 4X4 vehicle. Or an ATV of course. It's so beautiful and peaceful in Hennessy Meadows.

Well enough of that. I really enjoyed your post. You have done spectacular.


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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:24 pm 
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atvdude wrote:
This town is still in private ownership from a family that lives in Boise.


The people that own all of this is Ernie Overbilling. He and his family own Cinnabar, Stibnite (sometimes leased to various mining companies), and Antimony Camp on Johnson Creek. They also used to own Bradley Air Field in Garden City. Bradley Field was where the current Garden City City Offices are now located. When Stibnite was in it's hay day of operation 1940's-1950's, the Bradley's operated the airport in Stibnite. Air traffic between Stibnite and Bradley Field was very important. I'll locate some of my old pictures of Stibnite and the air service.

We built the new (now old) existing airstrip in Stibnite in 1981-82. We covered up the old 1940's-1950's airstrip with the large leach pads. Then we built a complete new airstrip to the south side of the leach pads and paralleling the leach pads. Arnold Aviation out of Cascade used to land there quite often with supplies. And sometimes we flew gold bars out from this airstrip. We also built a new airstrip and leach pads on top of Thunder Mountain 1986-87. Then we built a whole city up there just like we had at Stibnite. Cook shack and huge dining room, bunk houses, laundry mat, RV park, company offices. Then we set up a rock crusher to crush the ore. We had a fleet of rock trucks hauling to the crusher from the pit. Then we had a fleet of ten wheelers hauling from the crusher to the leach pads. Then after processing we had the same fleet of ten wheelers hauling from the leach pads to the taillings piles. We had to fly supplies in and truck supplies in daily to keep all of this going. Just imagine that big oil tanker truck from the Flying J or Grants oil on Federal way, pulling there pup up to the junction of Profile Creek Rd and the East fork of the South Fork of the Salmon River. There is a little campground there. He would leave the pup (extra trailer) there because the road gets real bad from there. Then he would come the remaining ten miles on into Stibnite. Then five more miles up to Monumental Summit. This five miles all in his lowest gear and with his interlock locked in. That means all tires turn or nothing turns. Then the fun begins, it's a 12% grade going down the other side for the first 3/4 of a mile. Talk about a nail biter. Then 14 miles further on in to reach us on top of Thunder Mountain. Then he would unload his main tank of fuel. Then we would have to follow him back out to Monumental Summit and push him up that last 3/4 of a mile of 12% grade. Because if we weren't pushing him the truck would do the death hop and take the power divider out or twist off a driveline. I usually was the guy in the 16G Cat Road Grader (or blade as we call them) pushing him over the top. Then he would go clear back down to where his trailer was parked and transfer the load of diesel from the trailer to his main truck. Then he would make a return trip with the rest of his load. Did I mention this was an everyday routine to keep the mine in operation. Oh yes we had the forest service under foot every inch of the way. Don't get me started on those guys and gals.


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 Post subject: Re: Cinnabar
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:58 pm 
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Your right, its east!!! I don't know what I was thinking...

Thanks for the additional information and History! If you have more pictures it would be great to see them! I recently picked up the book called "83 Miles of Hell, the Stibnite ore haul, 1942 to 1952. Its a pretty good book to read with lots of photos.

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